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Apparently, stealing is awesome.

Journal Entry: Sat Nov 1, 2008, 6:33 PM


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Updates: Apparently, stealing is awesome.
Apparently, stealing is awesome if you take the design you've stolen and white out things and replace them with your own information.

A few of you will remember a little while ago when I made a new ID for myself (here: [link]. Because it's animated, and I didn't want to have to put a small preview picture up, I left James' lovely gift art up as my ID and put the new ID in the spot of my webcam picture. I put no little amount of time into making this; it's not the most complex ID in the world, but I put time and effort into finding a reference I needed in the comics (and I finally found a good reference picture in an issue of Ms. Marvel of all places) and putting all of the elements together to make something unique for myself. I'm sure other people have made S.H.R.A. ID cards for themselves, but I can guarantee that they look different in some ways because they made their own and I made mine.

It wound seem that ~dragonoflightning thinks that because it's posted as a "webcam" picture instead of a deviation, that makes it super awesome and a great idea to steal it and use it for herself. At first, I was more curious than anything else--a sense of, "Wow, this looks a lot like the ID I did. That's kinda cool." Upon further inspection, I realized that it looks a "lot" like the ID I made because it IS the ID I made.

If you look at her deviation, you'll see that she mentions that she got it "someplace" on devtard. Well, gee, I wonder where that could be? Especially considering that she posted her copy-and-paste ID about an hour after she visited my devtard page, according to the timestamps on her deviation and on my list of recent visitors. She blames the "crappiness" of using white boxes to block out my information and put in her own on a lack of knowing how to use Photoshop or other editing software properly. Well, guess what? I don't care if you can't take the ten minutes it takes to learn to properly use Gimp or Photoshop or whatever other art program to make something of your own. That doesn't make it right to steal things off of other people's pages. There is no blank version because I never put one out; and did she even bother to ask? Did it ever occur to her to send me a note and say, "Hey, I like your SHRA ID card. Where did you get it/Do you know where I can get a blank template?" Hell, I might have even given her a blank version if she had. But, no, she didn't think it necessary to be considerate in that regard and instead just stole my ID and pasted over my information with her own.

In the end, I suppose it doesn't really matter as much as I'm making it out to be; she did paste over my artwork with her own--and the closest that anything comes to being my artwork elsewhere on the ID is the quick redraw of the SHIELD logo that I did in Illustrator, but it took all of five minutes to do, so I'm not that upset in that regard. What I am aggravated about, however, is the idea that people will just take things without having the common courtesy to even ask first. I might not even be that offended if she had said "I got this off of Marron's page" instead of "I found this on dA someplace." Like I said, if she had asked me, I probably would have given her a blank template. Now, however, all ~dragonoflightning gets is to be put On Notice.





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*marron Nov 1, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
A little, but I thank you sir for coming to my defense!
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:icondragonoflightning:
Okay, I don't appreciate this completely public stab at me... you could have just commented on the pic itself, and left it at that. Like I said, I didn't know you made it yourself... you're blowing this whole thing out of proportion. :no:
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:iconswyndle:
Let me get this straight... You stole someone else's work on DA, then posted it on DA, then got called out for stealing someone else's work, after which you claimed you didn't mean to, going on further to apologize, further still to get upset at having the theft pointed out by the owner of said piece... and yet said piece is still up and you feel like you've been slighted in some way?

The world really has turned upside down. I am so sick of this entitlement complex everyone seems to have developed over the past ten years. You think Marron was mean for pointing out the theft? Wait and see what my journal looks like if the thing isn't removed by Monday.
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:icondragonoflightning:
No, I'm mad that it's getting blown out of proportion. All she should have done was point it out, and if I did nothing to fix it, then she could have done/said more.
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*marron Nov 1, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
And I feel fairly justified in pointing out your stealing things from me publicly since you know very well where you got the graphic from and decided to abstain from giving credit in the form of saying where you got it from instead of just saying "I got it from somewhere."

Let's see someone take something of yours, not give credit, and see how you react. As I said in the post, it's probably NOT as big a deal as my rant made it out, but what you did was enough to make me very irritated and, quite frankly, I have every right to complain in the form of a journal entry if I want to.
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:icondragonoflightning:
Fine, whatever. I'm not gonna argue. I wasn't stealing, you don't see it that way, so I'll take it down. End of story.
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:iconmarron:
*marron Nov 1, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
You didn't know, and you didn't ask; that's the whole point.
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~kimikohime Nov 1, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it is extremely rude and uncalled for. And the fact that it happens ALL too often now over the internet is really sad.
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:iconmarron:
*marron Nov 1, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
It is sad. And very, very rude.
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~melisus Nov 1, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well that's just rude and lazy. I know that on the internet stealing uncredited art happens all the time, but still... is it REALLY too much to just put a small line of credit somewhere saying you got it from somewhere else?
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